Nitrogen fixing bacteria for Alder trees - CornellForestConnect2024-03-29T00:45:05Zhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/forum/topics/nitrogen-fixing-bacteria-for-alder-trees?commentId=6448444%3AComment%3A23175&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI looked this tree up and yes…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2020-07-12:6448444:Comment:363532020-07-12T02:00:50.813ZJoanne Vaughnhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/JoanneVaughn
<p>I looked this tree up and yes it does seem like a potential candidate for the riparian location in mind. Someone once mentioned to me that they had "Ironwood" and it was a "real pest". Their Ironwood does not seem to be this tree. </p>
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<p>I looked this tree up and yes it does seem like a potential candidate for the riparian location in mind. Someone once mentioned to me that they had "Ironwood" and it was a "real pest". Their Ironwood does not seem to be this tree. </p>
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I don't persona…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2020-07-11:6448444:Comment:363502020-07-11T15:45:07.647ZEly McLaughlinhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/ElyMcLaughlin
<p>Hello Freyda,</p>
<p>I don't personally have any alder seeds in my collection, and they don't ripen in the woods, until fall. I did find a website that might be helpful, though. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.treeseeds.com/gray-alder-tree-seeds.html">http://www.treeseeds.com/gray-alder-tree-seeds.html</a></p>
<p>1,000 seeds for $15 is pretty reasonable for trees. I haven't done business with these people before, but I have had good luck ordering tree seeds online, in the past from other…</p>
<p>Hello Freyda,</p>
<p>I don't personally have any alder seeds in my collection, and they don't ripen in the woods, until fall. I did find a website that might be helpful, though. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.treeseeds.com/gray-alder-tree-seeds.html">http://www.treeseeds.com/gray-alder-tree-seeds.html</a></p>
<p>1,000 seeds for $15 is pretty reasonable for trees. I haven't done business with these people before, but I have had good luck ordering tree seeds online, in the past from other companies. They are out of Swanton, Vermont, so presumably the genetics would be compatible with your climate, if you live in Upstate New York.</p> Hey Ely, I did some research…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2020-07-11:6448444:Comment:363482020-07-11T15:21:56.801ZFreyda Lynn (Black)http://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/FreydaLynnBlack
<p>Hey Ely, I did some research and according to go botany the speckled Alder is also nitrogen fix. Could you send me some seeds of that Outdoorsman's nightmare?</p>
<p>Hey Ely, I did some research and according to go botany the speckled Alder is also nitrogen fix. Could you send me some seeds of that Outdoorsman's nightmare?</p> Thanks Eli for the great info…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2020-07-11:6448444:Comment:362812020-07-11T15:03:01.095ZFreyda Lynn (Black)http://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/FreydaLynnBlack
<p>Thanks Eli for the great information. Two new species for me to investigate. ☺</p>
<p>Thanks Eli for the great information. Two new species for me to investigate. ☺</p> While perhaps not nitrogen-fi…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2020-07-11:6448444:Comment:362802020-07-11T15:01:25.047ZFreyda Lynn (Black)http://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/FreydaLynnBlack
<p>While perhaps not nitrogen-fixing, I find Carpinus caroliniana, variously called muscle wood, blue beech, and Ironwood around here, not to be confused with hophornbeam, Ostrya virginiana, a beautiful small tree naturally occurring and my wet areas happily forming colonies along stream Banks which, I assume, also do the job of holding soils well. Although perhaps little loved by Foresters, it was found a very useful tree in earlier times for it's extremely dense hardwood and is also very…</p>
<p>While perhaps not nitrogen-fixing, I find Carpinus caroliniana, variously called muscle wood, blue beech, and Ironwood around here, not to be confused with hophornbeam, Ostrya virginiana, a beautiful small tree naturally occurring and my wet areas happily forming colonies along stream Banks which, I assume, also do the job of holding soils well. Although perhaps little loved by Foresters, it was found a very useful tree in earlier times for it's extremely dense hardwood and is also very ornamental. Personally, I welcome it wherever it chooses to grow. </p>
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<p><a href="https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/carpinus-caroliniana/common-name/water-beech/" target="_blank">https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/carpinus-caroliniana/common-name/water-beech/</a></p> What I found intriging about…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2020-07-10:6448444:Comment:363452020-07-10T00:34:07.347ZJoanne Vaughnhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/JoanneVaughn
<p>What I found intriging about the Alders is that they are nitrogen fixing and tolerable of a high water table. Could be good for erosion control.</p>
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<p>What I found intriging about the Alders is that they are nitrogen fixing and tolerable of a high water table. Could be good for erosion control.</p>
<p></p> I don't know about the chemic…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2020-07-09:6448444:Comment:362582020-07-09T18:14:11.787ZEly McLaughlinhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/ElyMcLaughlin
<p>I don't know about the chemical properties of alder wood, but I did find a couple that are native to the Northeast. Speckled alder (<em>Alnus incana</em>) and hazel alder (<em>Alnus serrulata)</em> are both native to portions of New York State and New England. Speckled alder is actually a pretty frequent wetland shrub, here in northern New Hampshire, where it forms thickets that are an outdoorsman's nightmare.</p>
<p>I don't know about the chemical properties of alder wood, but I did find a couple that are native to the Northeast. Speckled alder (<em>Alnus incana</em>) and hazel alder (<em>Alnus serrulata)</em> are both native to portions of New York State and New England. Speckled alder is actually a pretty frequent wetland shrub, here in northern New Hampshire, where it forms thickets that are an outdoorsman's nightmare.</p> Even though their natural ran…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2020-05-22:6448444:Comment:358062020-05-22T23:29:44.774ZJoanne Vaughnhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/JoanneVaughn
<p>Even though their natural range might not include Upstate NY it seems possible that they could be</p>
<p>cultivated there in the age of climate change. </p>
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<p>Even though their natural range might not include Upstate NY it seems possible that they could be</p>
<p>cultivated there in the age of climate change. </p>
<p></p> Finding this discussion, I re…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2020-05-22:6448444:Comment:358032020-05-22T22:39:41.374ZFreyda Lynn (Black)http://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/FreydaLynnBlack
<p>Finding this discussion, I researched the native range of Alders and found the only one native to the East Coast, <i>Alnus maritima, </i>does not range north of Delaware. I am curious if the composition of the wood (chemically) would be similar to the other birches, as they are in the Betulae family. Asking because alder wood chips are a good substrate for some mushroom species.</p>
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<p>Finding this discussion, I researched the native range of Alders and found the only one native to the East Coast, <i>Alnus maritima, </i>does not range north of Delaware. I am curious if the composition of the wood (chemically) would be similar to the other birches, as they are in the Betulae family. Asking because alder wood chips are a good substrate for some mushroom species.</p>
<p></p> Thanks for the reminder about…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2020-01-11:6448444:Comment:349352020-01-11T14:02:01.006Zchris Shttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/chrisS
<p>Thanks for the reminder about transferring some soil from a place where mature plants are thriving & using it to inoculate the new planting. </p>
<p>Thanks for the reminder about transferring some soil from a place where mature plants are thriving & using it to inoculate the new planting. </p>