Beech management and triclopyr - CornellForestConnect2024-03-29T08:15:32Zhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/forum/topics/beech-management-and-triclopyr?feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Jeff:
Thanks for the note.…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2015-07-20:6448444:Comment:193122015-07-20T22:29:27.287ZPeter Smallidgehttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/3pcwpqc3r9bgy
<p>Hi Jeff:</p>
<p>Thanks for the note.</p>
<p>When I compared Garlon 4 and glyphosate on cut stump, i had almost double the control of root sprouts with glyphosate. However, if the sprouts are dead, as you know, either Garlon 4 or glyphosate will control the stump.</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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<p>Hi Jeff:</p>
<p>Thanks for the note.</p>
<p>When I compared Garlon 4 and glyphosate on cut stump, i had almost double the control of root sprouts with glyphosate. However, if the sprouts are dead, as you know, either Garlon 4 or glyphosate will control the stump.</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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Yeah the applicator att…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2015-07-20:6448444:Comment:192082015-07-20T20:50:48.597ZJeff Jourdainhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/JeffJourdain
<p>Pete-</p>
<p>Yeah the applicator attaches to the brush saw. I got mine from the gentleman in Canada that developed them. It has been a couple years since I spoke with him. He was having a hard time getting them manufactured, but he sounded optimistic at that time. One of my clients who is a forester in Pennsylvania tried unsuccessfully to contact him earlier this spring. I would love to find another source. </p>
<p>A friend of mine who used to work at the University of Maine and then…</p>
<p>Pete-</p>
<p>Yeah the applicator attaches to the brush saw. I got mine from the gentleman in Canada that developed them. It has been a couple years since I spoke with him. He was having a hard time getting them manufactured, but he sounded optimistic at that time. One of my clients who is a forester in Pennsylvania tried unsuccessfully to contact him earlier this spring. I would love to find another source. </p>
<p>A friend of mine who used to work at the University of Maine and then for a tsi/brush saw contractor in Northern Maine in the early 1980's has an early generation herbicide applicator for brush saws. I'm hoping to try that out this fall as well. </p>
<p>I used Garlon 4 for a couple reasons - first I had it, second was when I first used used the applicator it was getting to be cold and I didn't need to worry about the oil like I would have with the water. I have also developed a preference for the oil based treatments on stumps. </p>
<p>The brush saw is really efficient at dealing with small dbh trees /seedlings. Especially beech thickets of saplings/seedlings. You can really lay them down fast. </p>
<p>Next treatment is a thinning/prepcut/improvement cut. The low grade material will come out. Most of the large beech stumps will be treated with either Garlon 4 or glyphosate depending on the timing of the treatment. </p>
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<p>Jeff</p> Hi Jeff - Nice pictures of th…tag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2015-07-20:6448444:Comment:192052015-07-20T12:09:09.509ZPeter Smallidgehttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/3pcwpqc3r9bgy
<p>Hi Jeff - Nice pictures of the treated woods. Thanks for sharing those.</p>
<p>Dave Jackson with PSU did the research that I'm familiar with on the reduced dose rate concentration with Garlon 4. Here is his <a href="http://extension.psu.edu/publications/ee0059" target="_blank">link</a> (or google for PSU selective basal bark herbicide). In NY, and I assume in PA and CT, the law allows agricultural herbicide treatments to be less than the labeled rate. In NY, Garlon 4 is restricted use and…</p>
<p>Hi Jeff - Nice pictures of the treated woods. Thanks for sharing those.</p>
<p>Dave Jackson with PSU did the research that I'm familiar with on the reduced dose rate concentration with Garlon 4. Here is his <a href="http://extension.psu.edu/publications/ee0059" target="_blank">link</a> (or google for PSU selective basal bark herbicide). In NY, and I assume in PA and CT, the law allows agricultural herbicide treatments to be less than the labeled rate. In NY, Garlon 4 is restricted use and only available to certified applicators (commercial or private). Pathfinder II is the pre-mix of Garlon 4 in oil and is not restricted use. I don't know if it is lawful to dilute Pathfinder II below the mixture rate given it is a pre-mix. I'll look into that.</p>
<p>Is the applicator you used attached to the brush saw? I'm aware that attachment used to be sold commercially, but the last I knew they were no longer manufactured. Have you found a new vendor for these? Maybe someone else knows where to obtain a applicator that attaches to a brush saw.</p>
<p>What was the advantage of a brush saw with Garlon 4 vs, say, brush saw and glyphosate or hack-n-squirt with glyphosate?</p>
<p>I'm curious, what is the next treatment planned for this woods? Is the beech work in preparation for a prepatory cut or thinning?</p>
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<p>Pete</p>
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