Woodlot Management - CornellForestConnect2024-03-29T07:29:47Zhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/forum/categories/woodlot-management/listForCategory?feed=yes&xn_auth=noReplanting after timber harvest with climate change in mindtag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2024-02-14:6448444:Topic:1190492024-02-14T17:00:50.018ZBen T.http://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/Ben
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<p>I’ve been wondering what tree species are going to thrive over the next 50+ years as the climate warms in New York and I’m curious if folks are enhancing plantings of particular tree species for future commercial harvest with warmer and longer summers in mind. I’m located in DEC Region 4, in southern Montgomery county.</p>
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<p>I’m brand new to this group and was encouraged to join by Brett Chedzoy, whom I’d…</p>
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<p>Hi Everyone,</p>
<p>I’ve been wondering what tree species are going to thrive over the next 50+ years as the climate warms in New York and I’m curious if folks are enhancing plantings of particular tree species for future commercial harvest with warmer and longer summers in mind. I’m located in DEC Region 4, in southern Montgomery county.</p>
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<p>I’m brand new to this group and was encouraged to join by Brett Chedzoy, whom I’d reached-out to with this same basic question and he thought you all would have some diverse opinions and insights.</p>
<p>Our family purchased a recreational property a little over a year ago near Cobleskill and we were lucky to find one which hadn’t seen timber harvest in at least 40 years. Working with a consultant forester, we have a management plan in place with the goal of generating a healthy and sustainable forest for long-term ownership, but with the ability to generate periodic revenue via timber harvest to subsidize ownership costs.</p>
<p>We have about 85 acres of mature forest containing a mix of hardwood and softwood stands (and some mixed hardwood-softwood) with different planting histories. Site topography varies and has both north and south facing slopes of varying inclines. Soils are predominately silty loam. Most stands are ‘healthy’ at present, but some could benefit from harvest.</p>
<p>Our current focus is a harvest plan for multiple stands which are predominately saw timber sized European Larch, in total about 26 acres, which my forester believes has reached the end of its growth potential and would not respond to a commercial thinning. He’s proposing group selection harvest over a couple of entries in the next 10-15 years. This led to the question, ‘do you want to replant anything, particularly softwoods like Red Pine?’ Which leads to the question above of planting with the future in mind.</p>
<p>I understand that harvesting Larch lends well to natural hardwood regeneration. I accept that species diversity is the best hedge against the unpredictable nature of climate change (and the associated pests and diseases which come with it). To me, that means ensuring a mix of hardwood and softwood stands and it is making me think replanting with softwoods on appropriate sites is beneficial.</p>
<p>With that in mind, we’re looking at Red Pine or Norway Spruce to replant maybe half of the Larch we plan to harvest, with the rest of the stand allowed to regenerate naturally.</p>
<p>On the hardwood side, with deer browse a risk, I’d be looking to use tree tubes to protect certain saplings in the stands to ensure return of more valuable tree species. This should (hopefully) enhance Red Oak and Black Cherry which are present in other stands on the property, and any other valuable tree species that may pop up with some direct sunlight.</p>
<p>I have not considered hardwood planting with species like White Oak, Black Walnut, or Hickory yet, since I’d like to see what regenerates first.</p>
<p>Are there additional softwood species I should consider with future commercial potential? Any advice for managing hardwood regeneration in the face of hotter summers?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for your time and input.</p> Rust Colored Hemlock Barktag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2023-12-31:6448444:Topic:1184322023-12-31T17:21:00.560ZCarl Albershttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/CarlAlbers946
<p>Picture of a hemlock with rust colored bark. When I cut a nearby tree, also with rust colored bark, it was infested with HWA. Attached picture shows a Logrite ATV arch in use.</p>
<p>Picture of a hemlock with rust colored bark. When I cut a nearby tree, also with rust colored bark, it was infested with HWA. Attached picture shows a Logrite ATV arch in use.</p> Rust Colored Hemlock Barktag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2023-12-31:6448444:Topic:1181692023-12-31T13:36:14.896ZCarl Albershttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/CarlAlbers946
<p>The hemlocks in my woodlots have been infested with hemlock wooley adelgid (HWA) for at least three years now. Lately I've noticed some of them having a rust colored bark and I wonder if this is normal and that I just didn't notice it previously? I cut one of these yesterday and the needles were heavily infested with HWA.</p>
<p>Can anyone comment on this?</p>
<p>Last year I cut a hemlock that had recently died and it broke apart/cracked in places on hitting the ground so I'm guessing that…</p>
<p>The hemlocks in my woodlots have been infested with hemlock wooley adelgid (HWA) for at least three years now. Lately I've noticed some of them having a rust colored bark and I wonder if this is normal and that I just didn't notice it previously? I cut one of these yesterday and the needles were heavily infested with HWA.</p>
<p>Can anyone comment on this?</p>
<p>Last year I cut a hemlock that had recently died and it broke apart/cracked in places on hitting the ground so I'm guessing that hemlock loses its structural strength quickly once it dies??? Is there any loss in structural strength if the tree has a full canopy of green needles, but is heavily infested with HWA?</p> How to control mature white pine and hemlock to allow enrichment planting of hardwoodstag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2023-11-28:6448444:Topic:1183322023-11-28T12:53:34.175ZPeter Smallidgehttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/3pcwpqc3r9bgy
<p>I had a question about control of mature white pine and hemlock to improve sunlight for enrichment planting of hardwoods. Following is my response, but I would like to know if anyone else has any experiences to share with control of these to conifers.</p>
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<p><em>I would have thought that a 40%+ active ingredient dose of glyphosate would be effective on pine and hemlock, but one forester I know says below he has found otherwise. The Accord XRT label…</em></p>
<p>I had a question about control of mature white pine and hemlock to improve sunlight for enrichment planting of hardwoods. Following is my response, but I would like to know if anyone else has any experiences to share with control of these to conifers.</p>
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<p>Peter</p>
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<p><em>I would have thought that a 40%+ active ingredient dose of glyphosate would be effective on pine and hemlock, but one forester I know says below he has found otherwise. The Accord XRT label describes the sensitive of pine, conifer and spruce as Christmas trees and nursery stock to glyphosate during a foliar application. I would use this as a drill and fill (= hack and squirt) with 1 ml per 8 – 9 inches of circumference (=1 ml per 2 – 3 inches of diameter). I have never tried an herbicide on hemlock.</em></p>
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<p><em>I recall a cold-day drill and fill of white pine with nearly full strength Accord XRT with reasonable success. Some of the trees we treated were wolfy pine and had some branches survive, so we likely needed a higher density of holes.</em></p>
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<p><em>I did a quick skim of the Polaris label (imazapyr) which also suggests sensitivity of conifer foliage to this product, and the effectiveness of injection treatment of pine. The label suggests mixing this product with glyphosate to enhance control of pine. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Read the labels</span>, but I suspect about 1:1 Polaris with equal parts of 4:1 accord (herbicide:water).</em></p>
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<p><em>I’ve had success with girdling pine and hemlock, but death takes a year or more.</em></p> Story in Northern Woodlands Magazine on Deer Impactstag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2023-08-08:6448444:Topic:1172042023-08-08T13:27:59.829ZBrett Chedzoyhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/BrettChedzoy
<p>This Spring we had an opportunity to speak with writer John Litvaitis about the big picture of deer impacts on the hardwood forests of the Northeast. I posted the original story from the summer edition of Northern Woodlands to the <a href="http://www.slashwall.info">www.slashwall.info</a> website, accessible through the link below. </p>
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<p><a href="https://blogs.cornell.edu/slashwall/2023/06/16/slash-wall-article-from-northern-woodlands-magazine/">Slash Wall Article from Northern…</a></p>
<p>This Spring we had an opportunity to speak with writer John Litvaitis about the big picture of deer impacts on the hardwood forests of the Northeast. I posted the original story from the summer edition of Northern Woodlands to the <a href="http://www.slashwall.info">www.slashwall.info</a> website, accessible through the link below. </p>
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<p><a href="https://blogs.cornell.edu/slashwall/2023/06/16/slash-wall-article-from-northern-woodlands-magazine/">Slash Wall Article from Northern Woodlands Magazine | The Cornell Slash Wall Resource Center</a></p>
<p></p> The American Chestnut: A New Frontier in Gene Editingtag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2023-05-02:6448444:Topic:1156902023-05-02T12:44:06.234ZBrett Chedzoyhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/BrettChedzoy
<pre><span style="font-family: 'inherit',serif;"><a href="https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/policy/042823/the-american-chestnut">https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/policy/042823/the-american-chestnut</a></span><br/><br/>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Interesting discussion the difference between efforts with the American Chestnut and other "genetically modified" trees</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: 'inherit',serif;"><a href="https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/policy/042823/the-american-chestnut">https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/policy/042823/the-american-chestnut</a></span><br/><br/>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Interesting discussion the difference between efforts with the American Chestnut and other "genetically modified" trees</span></pre> Growing Black Locust for Pleasure and Profittag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2023-04-20:6448444:Topic:1157432023-04-20T12:23:53.309ZBrett Chedzoyhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/BrettChedzoy
<p>In early March I was invited to present on the opportunities for growing black locust as a timber cash crop at the Rural Landowner Conference in Allegany County. Ryan Trapani from the Catskill Forest Owners Association asked afterwards if I would join his radio show for a deeper discussion. That interview is now available as part of their podcast series: <a href="https://catskillforest.org/radio-new/">https://catskillforest.org/radio-new/ </a></p>
<p>Their podcast series has many other…</p>
<p>In early March I was invited to present on the opportunities for growing black locust as a timber cash crop at the Rural Landowner Conference in Allegany County. Ryan Trapani from the Catskill Forest Owners Association asked afterwards if I would join his radio show for a deeper discussion. That interview is now available as part of their podcast series: <a href="https://catskillforest.org/radio-new/">https://catskillforest.org/radio-new/ </a></p>
<p>Their podcast series has many other good woods-related interviews.</p>
<p></p> Ash blonding effect on lumber qualitytag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2023-04-16:6448444:Topic:1155612023-04-16T15:39:09.417ZJeff Josephhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/JeffJoseph
<p>Question: In Peter Smallidge's most recent "Ask a Professional" column for NYFOA's Forest Owner magazine he stated that some log buyers will reject ash that shows outward signs of "blonding" on the bark. Is this because the wood will change chemically in some way in response to the stress from EAB feeding? I ask because I recently harvested some white ash on my property from lightly blonded trees that exhibited some uneven, blotchy coloration in the sapwood, as if the chemicals in the…</p>
<p>Question: In Peter Smallidge's most recent "Ask a Professional" column for NYFOA's Forest Owner magazine he stated that some log buyers will reject ash that shows outward signs of "blonding" on the bark. Is this because the wood will change chemically in some way in response to the stress from EAB feeding? I ask because I recently harvested some white ash on my property from lightly blonded trees that exhibited some uneven, blotchy coloration in the sapwood, as if the chemicals in the heartwood had bled over into the sapwood unevenly. The wood was fully sound structurally, but aesthetically this wood was clearly degraded, as it is really not a great look for woodworking purposes. Bottom line: I am wondering if I should attempt to harvest all my remaining ash before it suffers a similar fate, but am pressed for time, and my woodshed is already full....Thoughts? Thanks.</p> Recording links for Ruffed Grouse, American Woodcock and Wild Turkey webinarstag:cornellforestconnect.ning.com,2023-04-11:6448444:Topic:1158362023-04-11T23:56:04.052ZBrett Chedzoyhttp://cornellforestconnect.ning.com/profile/BrettChedzoy
<p>On March 29th and April 5th the Southern Finger Lakes Chapter of the NY Forest Owners Association and Audubon NY hosted virtual presentations by experts from the Ruffed Grouse Society, American Woodcock Society and National Wild Turkey Federation. Full details are in the "events" section. The recordings can be watched here: </p>
<p><a href="https://vod.video.cornell.edu/media/Wild%20Turkey%20presentation%20by%20Kaylee%20Szymanski%20on%20April%205%202023/1_7i96nl0t">Wild Turkey presentation…</a></p>
<p>On March 29th and April 5th the Southern Finger Lakes Chapter of the NY Forest Owners Association and Audubon NY hosted virtual presentations by experts from the Ruffed Grouse Society, American Woodcock Society and National Wild Turkey Federation. Full details are in the "events" section. The recordings can be watched here: </p>
<p><a href="https://vod.video.cornell.edu/media/Wild%20Turkey%20presentation%20by%20Kaylee%20Szymanski%20on%20April%205%202023/1_7i96nl0t">Wild Turkey presentation by Kaylee Szymanski on April 5 2023</a></p>
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<p><a href="https://vod.video.cornell.edu/media/Ruffed%20Grouse%20and%20Woodcock%20with%20Todd%20Waldron%20and%20Jesse%20Rock%20March%2029%202023.mp4/1_kpxgx0j4">Ruffed Grouse and Woodcock with Todd Waldron and Jesse Rock March 29 2023.mp4</a></p>
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<p> The warning is that infection can result if it is done at the wrong time of year.</p>
<p> I know how to do it and know it is costly but I have thirty acres of plantations of the three species and would like to add value to them.</p>
<p> What is your recommendation?</p>
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